From: Professor BBB:
I don’t want to belabor this. Perhaps
“expected” would have been a better choice than “predicted,” albeit neither
term appears in the IPCC report. The point is that the 2017 observations
exceeded the trend. The trend points to what might be predicted.
More important, the macro-effects are
much, much more important than parsing micro-precision.
---- ---- ----
From: Seth
No one wants to belabor anything. But
only you can decide what you reply to, and how you do so (“Your note reveals a
common misunderstanding of the predictive models ....”).
You originally wrote “predicted”—even
to the extent of interjecting that word into a quotation from a report. Now you
are saying “exceeded the trend.” But the report did not say that either ... it
merely said one dataset (2017) exceeded a prior 30-year “average.” I see
nothing about “trend.” In a climate stable environment, as the alternative or null
hypothesis, there was a 50% likelihood that the 2017 dataset would exceed the
prior 30-year average. So that fact is hardly all that interesting. Right?
I think my initial comment about
climate change models lacking robustness—including, e.g., the ability to
reasonably accurately predict future observations—stands unrebutted. This is
particularly true in light of Professor BBB’s original observation: “The models and
reports also tend to under predict global temperatures.” Models that
systematically over predict the amount of observed global warming
(if any) & models that systematically under predict the
amount of observed global warming (if any)—are equally models that don’t work
well. Indeed, when observed phenomena contradict what a proposed model
predicts, the standard practice is to say the model and/or its predictions have
been falsified. See Popper. We would not govern our private affairs by models
that we know don’t work—it seems (to me at least) to govern our public affairs
on such a basis is wrong.
Seth
Seth Barrett Tillman, Part 2, Conlawprof and Climate Change, New Reform Club (Aug. 22, 2019, 8:35 AM), <https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2019/08/part-2-conlawprof-and-climate-change.html>.
Here is part 3: Seth Barrett Tillman, Part 3, Conlawprof and Climate Change, New Reform Club (Aug. 23, 2019, 7:05 AM), <https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2019/08/part-3-conlawprof-and-climate-change.html>.
Here is part 1: Seth Barrett Tillman, Conlawprof and Climate Change, New Reform Club (Aug. 21, 2019, 12:44 PM), <https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2019/08/conlawprof-and-climate-change.html>.
Here is part 3: Seth Barrett Tillman, Part 3, Conlawprof and Climate Change, New Reform Club (Aug. 23, 2019, 7:05 AM), <https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2019/08/part-3-conlawprof-and-climate-change.html>.
Here is part 1: Seth Barrett Tillman, Conlawprof and Climate Change, New Reform Club (Aug. 21, 2019, 12:44 PM), <https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2019/08/conlawprof-and-climate-change.html>.
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