Trump
is the first presidential candidate of my lifetime who has been regularly criticized
for making public statements conforming to rule of law principles. Part of the
confusion in the minds of his many critics arises from simple confirmation
bias. But another part comes from an inability of his critics to plainly
discuss what they mean by the rule of law. No doubt much of it is simply
disagreement with the man’s over-the-top style and his political
orientation—but normal disagreement about political principles, absent clear on
point evidence, ought not lead to claims that one’s opponent is a threat to the
rule of law.
So
what is the “rule of law”? Unfortunately, there is no simple answer to that
query. I well remember my graduation from law school. A thoughtful fellow
behind me said, as we waited on line to receive our degrees: “Seth, after three years of law school, as
far as I can tell, the rule of law is what a prosecutor says is at risk if he
loses a criminal case heard by a jury.” That answer of convenience will not
do. Other people fill in the rule of law with all good and noble principles:
the rule of law is human rights, separation of powers, democracy, etc. This
approach is not helpful either, for even if the virtues of these other
principles were not contestable, their content and optimal scope remains deeply
contested.
Without
attempting to fully define the rule of law, I will put forward some minimal
necessary (but not sufficient) conditions associated with the “rule of law”. A
person’s conduct is inconsistent with the rule of law, if he knowingly disobeys
established law without seeking a change in the law from the legislature (including
referenda where permitted by law) or validation of his specific conduct from
the courts. On the other hand, a person’s conduct is consistent with the rule
of law, if he obeys the judicial orders of lawfully constituted courts, and if
he obeys the rules associated with the conduct of litigation in those courts.*
Some
accused President William Jefferson Clinton of taking actions inconsistent with
the rule of law simply because he attempted to litigate the question of whether
the President enjoyed immunity against civil litigation during his four-year constitutional
term. This specific critique against President Clinton was misplaced. It was misplaced
because the legal issue, the existence of presidential immunity, was left to
the courts to decide, not to the President, and because when the courts decided
against the President, litigation continued in its normal course (and
ultimately the action settled). See Clinton
v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997) (Stevens, J.). Clinton lost. But the fact that
President Clinton lost a case—even one involving his own personal interests—does
not mean he acted contrary to rule of law norms (on this particular occasion).
Now let’s take a
hypothetical. A presidential candidate says:
The federal judges have become lawless overlords. Tyrants.
The system is rigged. We must quickly remove all appointed-for-life Article III
Justices and judges, and replace them all with elected judges with 5-year terms,
and until that is achieved, we must move as much federal litigation as possible
into state courts (i.e., those with elected judges) and into federal Executive
Branch adjudicatory bodies** subject to
presidential oversight.҂҂
We will do the former via constitutional amendment, and the latter via statute.
Now
what should we say about such a presidential candidate? If we think his
characterization of our current crop of federal judges is correct,*** then we
might agree with the course of conduct he suggests. But even if we agree with
his characterization of our current crop of federal judges, we still might
disagree with the proposed remedy: we might disagree for any number of reasons.
We might think the remedy unlikely to fix the problem, or that the proposed
remedy itself has defects worse than the (purported) disease.
We
also might disagree with this hypothetical presidential candidate’s characterization.
We might highly value the personal characteristics and judicial accomplishments
of the federal judiciary, and therefore oppose the proposed reform. Would it be
fair for such people, i.e., people taking the latter point of view, to claim
that the presidential candidate here is a threat to the rule of law?
My
view is that it would not be fair; my view is that it would be distinctly
unfair. The candidate here is not threatening to use violence. Instead, he is
making a proposal and offering reasons for his proposal. And if elected, he is
telling us that he intends to use lawful means to achieve his proposal before putting
them into effect. For one to suggest otherwise, to suggest that the candidate
here is a threat to the rule of law, is merely a way of equating one’s own
preferred policy outcomes with the rule of law. In other words, the rule of law is what I think good, and if
you are opposed to what I think good, you threaten the rule of law. That
all-too-thick all-too-politically-convenient personalized conception of the
rule of law won’t do. Nor will it do to identify the rule of law with an
appointed-for-life judiciary or our particular longstanding Article III
conventions. Several U.S. states elect their judicial officials for fixed
terms. Yet, few argue that we have no-rule-of-law zones (and states) in the
United States. The Jeffersonians, in effect, removed several Article III judges
from their lifetime positions, through their legislative reforms to the
organization of the federal circuit courts. The judges who remained on the
bench continued to enjoy traditional independence from the President and the
Executive Branch. You might disagree with those reforms, but the issue was fully
and fairly litigated. See generally Stuart
v. Laird, 5 U.S. 299 (1803) (Paterson, J.). Thus, the rule of law continued.
Now let’s try
another hypothetical. A presidential candidate says:
The federal judges have become lawless overlords. Tyrants.
The system is rigged. We must quickly remove all appointed-for-life Article III
Justices and judges, and replace them all with elected judges with 5-year
terms. We will first try to use constitutional amendments and statutes, but the
issue is too important to leave entirely to normal means. After Justice
Ginsburg’s overt politicization of the courts, our politics is no longer normal.
I hope this election will be an Ackerman/Tushnet democratic moment. So if you
elect me and if the politicized judges stand in the way, I will use the Army to
surround the courthouses, and send the FBI to dissenting judges’ homes and keep
them from holding hearings and trials. I plan to effectuate the changes I have
discussed here by any means possible.
This
candidate is plainly making plans (albeit, contingent plans) to violate the
law, and he is not relying on future legislative enactments or judicial validation
to justify lawless action. This candidate’s intended course of conduct is not
consistent with the rule of law. That said, the candidate’s deprecating
statements against federal judges are not what makes his conduct inconsistent
with the rule of law—such statements are clearly constitutionally protected
speech, and that applies both to candidates and even to sitting Presidents. His
conduct is inconsistent with the rule of law because he intends to break the
law. Buddy—this ain’t rocket science.
The trial, they
wanted it to start while I am running for President. The trial is going to take
place sometime in November. There should be no trial. This should have been
dismissed on summary judgment easily. Everybody says it, but I have a judge who
is a hater of Donald Trump. He’s a hater. His name is Gonzalo Curial. And he is
not doing the right thing. I figure what the hell? Why not talk about it for
two minutes. Should I talk about it? Yes? [cheers and applause] so we should
have won. . . .
I am getting
railroaded by a legal system, and frankly they should be ashamed. I will be
here in November. Hey, if I win as president, it is a civil case. I could have
settled this case numerous times. But I don’t want to settle cases when we are
right. I don’t believe in it. When you start settling cases, do you know what
happens? Everybody sues you because you get known as a settler. One thing about
me, I am not known as the settler.
And people
understand with this whole thing, with this whole deal with the lawyers, class
action lawyers are the worst. It is a scam. Here is what happens. We are in
front of a very hostile judge. The judge was appointed by by Barack Obama –
federal judge. [Boos]. Frankly he should recuse himself. He has given us ruling
after ruling, negative, negative, negative. I have a top lawyer who said he has
never seen anything like this before. So what happens is we get sued. We have a
Magistrate named William Gallo who truly hates us.
The good news is
it is a jury trial. We can even get a fully [sic] jury. We are entitled to a jury,
and we want a jury of 12 people. And you are going to watch. First of all, it
should be dismissed. Watch how we win it as I have been treated unfairly. . . .
So what happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe Mexican, which is
great. I think that is fine. You know what? I think the Mexicans are going to
end up loving Donald Trump when I give all these jobs. I think they are going
to love it. I think they are going to love me. . . .
A lot of people
said before you run you should settle. I said I don’t care. The people
understand it. And they use it. So when I have 10,000 people, and when we have
mostly unbelievable reviews, how do you settle? And in fact, when the case
started originally, I said how can I settle when I have a review like this? Now
I should have settled, but I am glad I didn’t. I will be seeing you in November
either as president. And I will say this. I have all these great reviews, but I
will say this. I think Judge Curiel should be ashamed of himself. I think it is
a disgrace he is doing this. I look forward to going before a jury, not this
judge, and we will win that trial. We will win that trial. Check it out. Check
it out, folks. You know, I tell this to people. November 28. I think it is
scheduled for. It should not be a trial. It should be a summary judgment
dismissal. . . .
It is a
disgrace. It is a rigged system. I had a rigged system, except we won by so
much. This court system, the judges in this court system, federal court. They
ought to look into Judge Curiel because what Judge Curiel is doing is a total
disgrace. Ok? But we will come back in November. Wouldn’t that be wild if I am
president and come back and do a civil case? Where everybody likes it.
Ok. This is
called life, folks. . . .
Trump
did not say: “I will burn the courthouse down.” “I will jail the judge.”**** “I
will litigate, but if I lose, I will disobey or unlawfully frustrate the court’s
orders.” “I will litigate, but (should I be elected) I will threaten the Court,
staff, and my opponents with the IRS and other administrative reprisals during
the course of the litigation or thereafter.” What Trump said, once you cut
through all the blather: I have a good,
strong case—an American jury of my peers will vindicate me—I won’t
settle; instead, I choose to litigate, as is my right. I add that assuring
the public that you will litigate, as Trump has done here, is the highest
praise a litigant can offer the system. It means—fundamentally—that he expects
to receive real justice. Just as Clinton’s litigation in Clinton v. Jones was consistent with the rule of law, so is Trump’s
promise to litigate after the election. Again,
this ain’t rocket science.
Professor
Post thinks otherwise. Professor Post wrote: “And no, Mr. Trump, it won’t be
‘wild’ if you are elected president and come back for your civil trial in
November—it will be a disgraceful spectacle.” David Post, On Donald Trump and the rule of law, Volokh Conspiracy—The Washington Post (May 29, 2016, with a
May 31 update), http://tinyurl.com/zzbyhfr. Why is
choosing to litigate a “disgraceful spectacle”? Professor Post also wrote: “If
the guy in charge of executing the laws thinks the system is ‘rigged’—against billionaires,
I suppose he means—and a ‘total disgrace,’ then . . . well, you can figure it
out. Enforce the law against himself? Or against his pals? That’s for suckers.”
Id. If Trump had said any of these
things, Post’s position would make some sense. The problem is that Trump did
not say anything like what Post describes. This is confirmation bias, plain and
simple. Professor Post is wrong: Post is projecting his fears onto Trump’s
speech. I suspect that the reason Post does this is because Post is a
true-believer: it is un-American to criticize the judiciary along the lines
Trump has engaged in, and if a man is so un-American as do that, then certain
conclusions naturally follow. But I admit that that is just a guess on my part.
In
a next-to-follow New Reform Club post, I intend to discuss Trump, the rule of
law, and eminent domain. Trump’s position on eminent domain is criticized as
inconsistent with the law and rule of law norms. His critics are not correct.
Finally, I again state: Trump is not my
ideal candidate. I did not back him in the primaries—indeed, there were others
who I would have preferred. I am not telling you to vote for him or not to do
so. You don’t need to hear what I think on this question because in a democracy
the operating theory is that adult citizens***** can make up their own minds and
vote (or not) how they like.
Seth
Twitter: https://twitter.com/SethBTillman ( @SethBTillman )
*I
don’t deny that there are some hard cases—which do sometimes occur in Western
democracies—when a person ought to disobey the courts and/or their rules. But
generally, those limited exceptions are rooted in other moral principles and
legal norms which overcome the rule of law; the exceptions are not part of the
rule of law itself. See, e.g., United
States v. Minoru Yasui, 48 F. Supp. 40, 51 (D. Or. 1942) (Fee, J.) (“No
designation need be given to acts which the military sometimes are required to
commit under the stress of war and of military necessity, such as ... the
refusal of General Cadwalader under Lincoln’s order to obey the writ of the
federal circuit court ....”). See
generally Seth Barrett Tillman, Ex parte Merryman: Myth,
History, and Scholarship, 224(2) Mil.
L. Rev. (forthcoming fall 2016) (peer reviewed).
**Whether
Executive Branch adjudicatory bodies are inherently “extralegal” or somehow
inherently inconsistent with rule of law norms is a subject for another day. For
a discussion of the history and first principles relating to the administrative
state see Philip Hamburger, Is
Administrative Law Unlawful? (2014); Gary Lawson, The Rise and Rise of the Administrative State, 107 Harvard Law Review 1231 (1994);
Lexington Green, History Friday: The Rule
of Law, Chicago Boyz (Dec. 20,
2013, 8:17 AM), http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/40650.html. Hamburger’s
and Lawson’s publications have generated responses from across the political
spectrum. My own view, which is considered idiosyncratic, is that the Framers
left us with a carefully crafted and specific constitutional procedure to deal
with administrative and Executive Branch overreach: Article I, Section 7,
Clause 3. See Seth Barrett Tillman, A Textualist Defense of Article I,
Section 7, Clause 3: Why Hollingsworth v. Virginia was Rightly Decided,
and Why INS v. Chadha was Wrongly Reasoned, 83 Texas Law Review 1265 (2005).
҂҂E-mail Correspondent to Seth Barrett Tillman
(“[E]xecutive courts might seem worrisome, [but] Congress has authorized them,
the Supreme Court has upheld them, and most law professors consider them
entirely lawful, and therefore even [though] this scenario seems worrisome, it [narrowly
or just barely] meets the criteria of the rule of law.”).
***I
should not have to add, but our trying times require my doing so: what I have discussed
here is just a series of hypotheticals. My personal experience with any number
of federal judges, as a law clerk and in other capacities, is that federal
judges are dedicated, publicly spirited public servants, who are subject to all
the defects of the human condition, as are we all, myself included.
****Such
things are not impossible to imagine. There was a beloved President and an
unpopular federal circuit court judge during the U.S. Civil War .... See generally Jonathan W. White, ‘Sweltering with Treason’: The Civil War
Trials of William Matthew Merrick, 39(2) Prologue
26 (Summer 2007).
*****By
adult citizens, I mean adult citizens: (i) who are validly-registered; (ii) who
are not felons serving their sentences; and (iii) who are not institutionally committed.
I think it is simple. President Obama does not follow the rule of law. Notably he has waived or refused to enforce the letter of the law on the implementation of Obamacare. Hillary Clinton has egregiously violated the rule of law with regards to national secrets. The Democrats are projecting the lawlessness of the Democratic President and Presidential candidate onto Donald Trump. In their minds, lawlessness has now become an integral feature of the Presidency, and they naturally fear a lawless Donald Trump, not because he has shown any inclination to be lawless, but because in their minds, if the "good" Democratic politicians are lawless, imagine how lawless a crazy Donald Trump would be. Projection, yes, but also an indictment of what they have done to the institution of the Presidency itself.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the Supreme Court itself has strayed from the Rule of Law. And has done so for many decades. I recall in ConLaw finding that the current rulings of the Court were not consistent with the book published by the Senate (Can't remember the name of the author; gimme a break that was back in 1960 at Georgetown). The Court is a policy-making body, not performing a judicial function. And therein lies the rub: If the final arbiter is not bound to follow the law, then where do you find the Rule of Law?
ReplyDeleteJim Brock
JD
It is lawyers parsing words (depends on what the definition of "is" is) that have trouble with the concept of the rule of law.
ReplyDeleteEveryday Americans have no difficulty. They also have a sense of morality and ethics that tells them when a line has been crossed.
Symbiotic relationship between the Clinton Foundation and Sec of State Hillary is not "illegal" we're told but is was unethical.
There was a time when that wouldn't have made a difference. As Democrat Truman said: "An honest Public Servant can't become rich in politics." Now the wealthiest members of Congress are life long Democrat public servants.
I like this one a lot, Seth. Trump should be hanged fair and square, but not on a humbug.
ReplyDeleteAnd I like the can of worms Jim Brock opens above: What when the Court itself is the threat to the rule of law? Perhaps after the election.
If Hillary wins it'll move to the top of the queue.
When officials, elected or otherwise, break their sworn oaths to uphold, defend, protect, serve and honor the country and it's people, the gloves should come off. Heads should roll. It is typical lawyer bullshit to talk everyone to death and in the end, plea down original crimes to something lesser for the sake of what, fairness?
ReplyDeleteBeyond the voters who keep electing scumbags with known criminal dealings, and we know who they are, and the crony politicians and business interests who use crony capitalism to rig the system, I blame lawyers for putting the rigging in "small print." You mean to tell me all the lawyers and brain power and knowledge in DC and college towns around the country and no one can stop the likes of Obozo and his Supremes? Give me a break!
This is my first time here and quite frankly, I find all this a bunch of legal masturbation. Have at it guys. I'm out!
You mean to tell me all the lawyers and brain power and knowledge in DC and college towns around the country and no one can stop the likes of Obozo and his Supremes? Give me a break!
ReplyDeleteOnly one side argues facts and logic but unfortunately both sides vote.
Go in peace, Mr. Play but keep in mind that elections matter. The only thing that can stop "Obozo" and his Supremes are other Supremes.
No mention of constitutionality? Either in the original or the comments? ROL is completely, fundamentally based on the Constitution, and on politicians keeping their oath to uphold it.
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