tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post114046515057740343..comments2024-03-06T03:15:58.539-05:00Comments on <b>THE NEW REFORM CLUB</b>: As the Crowe FliesHunter Bakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1140532362924622182006-02-21T09:32:00.000-05:002006-02-21T09:32:00.000-05:00Jay is entirely correct in his assertion that CIND...Jay is entirely correct in his assertion that CINDERELLA MAN does Max Baer a disservice. For "dramatic purposes" they changed the character radically, into a vicious monster (with the moment of congratulation at the end in fact being entirely of character, or more accurately, entirely out of caricature), and in some respect for decency and history the filmmakers should have changed the Baer character's name.<BR/><BR/>Other than that, however, the film is quite good.<BR/><BR/>Another excellent film centered on boxing is GENTLEMAN JIM, directed by Raoul Walsh and starring Errol Flynn as the boxer Jim Corbett. A wonderful film, and when you see the ending you will realize what a pale imitation Ron Howard achieved with his moment of congratulation at the end of the Braddock-Baer fight. Ron Howard is a competent director but no kind of thinker or creative mind at all. Raoul Walsh is the real thing.S. T. Karnickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05971214612730402709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1140492945890093592006-02-20T22:35:00.000-05:002006-02-20T22:35:00.000-05:00I skipped BBM because I think it was an intentiona...I skipped BBM because I think it was an intentional effort to piss on one of the ultimate symbols of manhood. I haven't seen it and don't doubt the artistic achievement.<BR/><BR/>Cinderalla Man, despite whatever historical flaws it has in its depiction of Max Baer, was a wonderful, wonderful film.Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1140479133438840292006-02-20T18:45:00.000-05:002006-02-20T18:45:00.000-05:00JFE,This comparison may seem extreme to you, but "...JFE,<BR/>This comparison may seem extreme to you, but "Triumph of the Will" was also an artistically award- winning and moving film. Yet it no doubt had an agenda. The reason BBM has been discussed, nominated, and award-winning is the agenda. If all the "romance" (or betrayal, depending on your perspective) was heterosexual this film would not be prominent. That said, I respect the fact that you enjoyed the movie and vouch for it to others.Evanston2https://www.blogger.com/profile/09851967034946400308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1140465801200285332006-02-20T15:03:00.000-05:002006-02-20T15:03:00.000-05:00I think your criticism of the film's portrayal of ...I think your criticism of the film's portrayal of Max Baer is rather off the mark. You need only pay attention to the final moments of victory: Baer comes up to Braddock and congratulates him in the manner of a competitor beaten by a worthy opponent.<BR/><BR/>Labeling "Brokeback Mountain" as an agenda film ignores the sheer scope of its artistic achievement. It's a far more moving portrayal of love denied than almost any other film I have seen.James F. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16747033407956667363noreply@blogger.com