tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post113700338650009475..comments2024-03-06T03:15:58.539-05:00Comments on <b>THE NEW REFORM CLUB</b>: A No-Brainer, Really...Hunter Bakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137087653953507202006-01-12T12:40:00.000-05:002006-01-12T12:40:00.000-05:00What do you want to bet if we sat down with both s...<I>What do you want to bet if we sat down with both schools total budgets we might find some rather large discrepencies?</I><BR/><BR/>This is where T's point about property taxes is telling. I grew up in Santa Clara County's second richest school district and spent the 2004-2005 school year working in its second poorest high school district. Per student funding is a meaningless measure of funds. "Poor" schools typically have more students to spread the funding around and, thanks to NCLB, often have their state and federal shares reduced due to "poor performance", leaving less funds to go around. Schools with "problems" also have additional spending requirements that tend to further shrink their budgets - more facilities repairs, more maintenance and security staff, that sort of thing. Per pupil spending is merely a formula - you have X students, you get Y dollars - but is not reflective of actual costs (busing will cost more in a poor area versus a wealthy or middle class one, for example).<BR/><BR/>Facilities spending is typically funded by bonds, and is not a facet of per pupil spending. <BR/><BR/>Further, per pupil spending fluctuates wildly in real dollars when you factor in things like parental support, fund raising, that sort of thing. Michael, you state that they're in the same county, but are they in the same district? This is a vital detail in school funding and could, potentially, completely undermine your argument. Since you state that parents have the choice of sending to one or the other, I'll assume they're in the same district.<BR/><BR/>This is not to diminish Michael's initial point which is that parental involvement is key to child development, not just educationally. For interested parties, I recommend Googling "Project Cornerstone" of California First Five. They've identified some 50 developmental factors key to a child's growth and education.James F. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16747033407956667363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137038136670025472006-01-11T22:55:00.000-05:002006-01-11T22:55:00.000-05:00One does not walk into another man's home and hold...One does not walk into another man's home and hold him a liar until he proves otherwise. It violates the spirit of comity, if not common decency.<BR/><BR/>"Mr. Simpson" is at home here, and all others are his guests. If he cannot be yielded the benefit of the doubt on a given point, registering a polite demurral for the record will suffice.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137012587195809752006-01-11T15:49:00.000-05:002006-01-11T15:49:00.000-05:00One more thing, T, you might have noticed that sev...One more thing, T, you might have noticed that several of the TRCers never take the time to respond to you. You might want to spar more chivalrously and make sure you keep some debate partners lined up.Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137012472836739082006-01-11T15:47:00.000-05:002006-01-11T15:47:00.000-05:00Tlaloc, this is one of those times when you go bey...Tlaloc, this is one of those times when you go beyond what is acceptable. We can take it for granted that Michael, who has young children and is a taxpayer in a school district and happens to be politically savvy, knows whereof he speaks with regard to the local system.<BR/><BR/>Facilities never made public education. My father attended a little country school in Tennessee, but it is clear to me when we compare notes that he received a much better education at the primary and secondary levels than I did. This is one of those areas where a strong community and family ethos trumps the bucks every time.Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137009771733742002006-01-11T15:02:00.000-05:002006-01-11T15:02:00.000-05:00Michael, meet Tlaloc. He's generally going to cha...Michael, meet Tlaloc. He's generally going to challenge virtually every statement you make that doesn't gel with his interesting worldview brew of secular-humanist-collectivist-anarchist. Aside from that, he IS tireless.Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137004037372160342006-01-11T13:27:00.000-05:002006-01-11T13:27:00.000-05:00That's a point I hear over and over again about pu...That's a point I hear over and over again about public schools that are "bad." The basic complaint is that it is difficult to maintain order and keep learning first in the classroom. I don't think that has anything to do with race or economics. I think it has everything to do with family structure. A single parent is far more likely to succumb to parenting and kid management fatigue and finally just let the kid do what they want.Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.com