tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post113699771498475333..comments2024-03-06T03:15:58.539-05:00Comments on <b>THE NEW REFORM CLUB</b>: More on Media Bias: I Mean, It's Serious.Hunter Bakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137086668212902212006-01-12T12:24:00.000-05:002006-01-12T12:24:00.000-05:00Hunter, Tlaloc is completely in the right, here. (...Hunter, Tlaloc is completely in the right, here. (Oh, the pun!) The methodology is completely flawed. By your same methodology, an NPR ombudsman study of two years ago found that 60% of NPR guests were conservatives. Your contention would make NPR a conservative station, quite the contrary to the whining of conservatives.<BR/><BR/>The data collected by your methodology doesn't allow for context. It relies upon ill-formed, researcher-defined definitions of "liberal organization." For example, the ACLU is not a "liberal" organization in the same sense as NOW. The ACLU, as a filer of high-profile lawsuits, will be all over the news, skewing your results.<BR/><BR/>The methodology is flawed. Conservative news sources lambasting the ACLU will, under that methodology, be rated as liberal, while a liberal source dedicated to countering say, Hudson, will be rated as conservative. As the NPR example above notes, the data will not support the hypothesis.<BR/><BR/>You've failed to reject the null, man.<BR/><BR/>And Nidsu? Your first comment is easily the dumbest thing I've read in weeks. Thanks. As a graduate of one of those ultra-liberal universities living in one of those ultra-liberal states, I can tell you that no professors EVER questioned capitalism or inserted their own political opinions into lecture or grading. (Now, TAs? That's another story entirely...) A good professor wants people to make their own conclusions, not parrot his or her own.James F. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16747033407956667363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137076460347300412006-01-12T09:34:00.000-05:002006-01-12T09:34:00.000-05:00No, you're still screwed up. Blogs like ours basi...No, you're still screwed up. Blogs like ours basically exist to critique groups like the ACLU. Besides, I'm a legal type and thus this blog is legal like Powerline is legal. Much more likely to mention ACLU than Heritage. Plus, you continue to make the mistake of pitting one group against one group rather than universe of groups versus universe of groups. Replicate the authors's study, analyze the data for the problem you claim they have, and THEN I'll listen to you.Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137034821808930492006-01-11T22:00:00.000-05:002006-01-11T22:00:00.000-05:00I can't believe it either, because it's just too c...I can't believe it either, because it's just too clear "all things considered."Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137017018694243412006-01-11T17:03:00.000-05:002006-01-11T17:03:00.000-05:00Your method is no good. You're only measuring one...Your method is no good. You're only measuring one think tank versus a liberal org. If you do like the authors and measure ALL liberal groups versus ALL conservative groups cited, you might get a different result.<BR/><BR/>In addition, your choice of Powerline is spurious because it is a legal based blog and would surely mention the ACLU more than Heritage.Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137013552182142112006-01-11T16:05:00.000-05:002006-01-11T16:05:00.000-05:00As Letterman said to O'Reilly (in a nice display o...As Letterman said to O'Reilly (in a nice display of media bias), I think you're about 60% (actually 90%) full of it. The study is well-constructed. It won't be perfect, but I think knowing that a particular outlet cites the ACLU in a story more often than they do Heritage, then we can tell they are probably more liberal. <BR/><BR/>At both ends, the study works well. Think about it. If someone cites Heritage all the time, you know they are generally going to lean right. Ditto someone who cites the type of liberal think tanks you like to roll out as a left-leaner. <BR/><BR/>The methods are really a pretty ingenious way of studying the issue. There are other interesting variations available, but this sounds pretty good to me.<BR/><BR/>Here's a description:<BR/><BR/>http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664Hunter Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14961831404331998743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8776899.post-1137010219364219172006-01-11T15:10:00.000-05:002006-01-11T15:10:00.000-05:00To be honest it really doesn't surprise me that jo...To be honest it really doesn't surprise me that journalists are typically liberal. They start off at a liberal arts school where they are taught to dislike capitalism and evil corporations. <BR/><BR/>Then the media outlets send them on stories of corporate corruption and evil millionaires that aren't sharing with the poor. <BR/><BR/>Also, many people who tend to believe in the capitalist ideal tend to be working in jobs that promote that ideal. Either that or starting their own businesses.Nidsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11170373438547046938noreply@blogger.com